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Post by PunkyTurtle018 on Nov 27, 2005 14:27:13 GMT -5
What do you think of the old Hat? Can it be wrong? Is it always right? How does it know people won't change? I mean, isn't it impossible to know whether or not someone's great now, but might change later in life? What's your opinion.
Also, how exactly does the Hat sort. It says it's by the values and things he sees in you, but then, wouldn't Hermy be in Ravenclaw, Neville in Hufflepuff? What's the hat's deal? Does it just try to keep friends together or put them where they want to be?
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Post by alexa on Nov 28, 2005 7:17:57 GMT -5
come on it's not like they're sorted for their whole life!
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Post by lovelyravenclaw on Dec 2, 2005 14:33:51 GMT -5
in a way though, don't you think they are? sorted by life i mean. everyone is categorized by what house they were in and it does run in families, so it's somewhat permanent. i think its sorta like being in a sorority or frat, even once you're out of college, you're still part of that sisterhood/brotherhood and years later you might come across someone in the same greek group and you're like hey i'm a blah blah blah too. i don't know, thats sorta the way it comes across to me.
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Post by renor faer on Dec 10, 2005 17:00:58 GMT -5
yeah perhaps. but i think the hat sorts by the strongest traits in the person at the time..and the thing is the house they're in enhances those traits...brings them out to where when they leave hogwarts and are no longer defined as a 'Gryffindor' or 'hufflepuff'or what have you but as a witch or wizard the traits that got them into the house are what stay with them..
ofcourse theres exceptions like the idiot Pettigrew..i think maybe the hat saw his cowardice and tried to bring out Courage and Bravery by putting him in Gryffindor :shrugs:
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Post by lovelyravenclaw on Dec 19, 2005 12:22:38 GMT -5
yeah, that's probably true renor faer, though how do you account for the people who just seemed to have been sorted into strange houses. i guess the one i wonder the most about is neville. was he really so brave when he was getting sorted or did the hat see the POTENTIAL for bravery in neville and thus, sorted him into gryffindor. i sorta think the hat is far wiser than any of us guess.
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Post by alexa on Jan 1, 2006 10:58:14 GMT -5
maybe the hat places the persons in which it sees potential and sorts them in a house to help them develope it ...right? and the thing with sorting it's really just wrong because it devises them... and categorizes them...
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Post by renor faer on Jan 5, 2006 18:20:24 GMT -5
ya. i don't think the hat puts people in houses based on just their present characteristics... i think it sees the hidden traits that it thinks have the potential to be the strongest and based on those it sorts everyone.
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Post by carlysue on Jan 12, 2006 12:55:54 GMT -5
well i think that the hat places people by i guess families/characteristics....but also..didnt harry ask to be put in gryffindor?....i mean....why would the hat put people in houses they obviously dont want to be in....so i guess a person gets to decide on some level at least
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Post by renor faer on Jan 12, 2006 19:02:38 GMT -5
yeah..because think of Malfoy.. the hat didn't really even touch his head before he was placed in Slytherin.. so i think it was the combination of family history and characteristics and his want to be in there that made the decision
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Post by PunkyTurtle018 on Jan 15, 2006 15:11:03 GMT -5
See, I honestly don't know what to think of the sorting hat... Sometimes I think it was right and sometimes I wonder what it was smokin. I mean, Neville, no matter how he may sometimes show bravery and such, he is a Hufflepuff at heart. And Hermione, she's always talking about rules and homework and exams. She may have some courage in her, but she's a genuine Ravenclaw!
I think the Hat sorts people according to where they want to be, and in that case, why don't people just get to go in there and say hey, I wanna be in that house. My friends are there. That's basically what happens. People get put with their friends. Doesn't matter what they're like. Hermione, Harry, Ron, and Neville, all in the same house.
I also think Percy should have been in Ravenclaw. He wasn't ever brave. He takes the easy way out. So, in conclusion, i think the sorting hat is WRONG in a lot of ways. I think it bases it's opinions of family, friends, and the person's choice. And, I don't think that it should be needed at all if that's the case.
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Post by dracoshermione on Jan 31, 2006 21:35:45 GMT -5
No, I don't see the hat being wrong...well, maybe that's just me. (PunkyTurtle018, I sighed the petition, number 285)
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Post by Monica on Feb 7, 2006 17:53:27 GMT -5
yeah perhaps. but i think the hat sorts by the strongest traits in the person at the time..and the thing is the house they're in enhances those traits...brings them out to where when they leave hogwarts and are no longer defined as a 'Gryffindor' or 'hufflepuff'or what have you but as a witch or wizard the traits that got them into the house are what stay with them.. ofcourse theres exceptions like the idiot Pettigrew..i think maybe the hat saw his cowardice and tried to bring out Courage and Bravery by putting him in Gryffindor :shrugs: Now, I don't know about this theory. I think the sorting hat KNOWS who is destined to be where. I mean, if he was only going on the strongest trait of the moment, shouldn't Neville be in Hufflepuff? And Hermione in Ravenclaw?
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Post by frogsofchocolate on Mar 15, 2006 18:40:52 GMT -5
Perhaps Percy will do something extremely brave in the next book that will make us realize why he was put in Gryffindor...
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Post by alilou on Apr 5, 2006 2:30:46 GMT -5
I think that the sorting hat sees where potential will be most realised, but I don't think it's some sort of god! It couldn't know how people will change and what choices they will make. The hat can only see the raw potential and the will and background of the person. I think the hat may have seen a potential to be brave and a desire to be in Gryffindor in both Neville and Pettigrew but in the end either fate or their choices meant those two went in VERY different directions (unless JK has a real shocker planned for the 7th book!)
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Post by Monica on Apr 8, 2006 18:01:29 GMT -5
That sounds like a good way of putting it. I mean, it is possible that the Sorting Hat knows something that no one else does. The sorting hat can see all that is in one's mind- Even things we ourselves do not remember. There are so many memories, and things it can see. Really, its possible it knows more about ourselves that we do.
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